

And the world they have to deal with increasingly involves oil companies, logging operations, mineral extractors, and so on. Their children are the adults in charge now. So several of my original collaborators are no longer around. Jeremy Narby: My original Ashaninca consultant, Carlos Perez Shuma, who introduced me in 1985 to the Ashaninca way of understanding the living rainforest, passed away in 2010, at the age of 70. What are the most important things you have observed in the world of your original collaborators?

Makery: In the long period between ‘The Cosmic Serpent’ and ‘Plant Teachers – Tobacco and Ayhuasca’ things have changed a lot in the world of the Ashaninca peoples. Recording of “The Incident” video conference: Narby is also Projects Coordinator for the Swiss NGO “Nouvelle Planète”, backing indigenous initiatives to bring land titling, bilingual education, health services, legal training and sustainable activities such as fish farming and forestry to indigenous communities. Recently the artist Kathleen Rogers, who also took part, invited me to moderate an online symposium remembering ‘The Incident’ and I invited Narby to join us, on the eve of publishing his new book, ‘Plant Teachers – Tobacco and Ayhuasca’, before interviewing him for Makery. Those conferences included figures like James Turrell, Jacques Vallee, Keiko Sei, the late Terence Mckenna, Roy Ascott, Michael Heim, Kristine Stiles, the late H R Giger, Ulrike Rosenbach, members of The Shamen and Rod Dickinson, with performances by Homer Flynn and The Residents, Linda Montano and Minnette Lehmann, Marko Peljhan, Erik Hobijn, Bruce Gilchrist, Ansuman Biswas and Anne Bean among others. After seeing an early draft, I invited him to take part in ‘The Incident’, two conferences, one happening in the context of the Belluard/Bollwerk Arts Festival in Fribourg in 1995 and the following year at the ICA, London, about mythologies surrounding UFOs and other unexplainable phenomena. Interview.Ģ6 years ago, when Swiss-Canadian author Jeremy Narby was preparing to publish his groundbreaking book on Ayhuasca and indigenous knowledge, ‘The Cosmic Serpent’ which would affect numerous researchers in this hitherto little-known field, I met him in Switzerland. He was recently speaking in ‘The Incident’ online symposium. By Rob La Frenais Jeremy Narby, the worldwide-known author of ‘The Cosmic Serpent’ (1998) is releasing a new book this year, ‘Plant Teachers – Tobacco and Ayhuasca’.
